Daniel Esposito's Remarkable Fight Against Chronic Pain and Winning

What if the diagnosis you were given wasn’t the end of your story?

In this powerful episode, Rich sits down with Daniel Esposito, a former NFL player who was told he would need multiple joint replacements and live with chronic pain for the rest of his life. Instead of accepting that fate, Daniel spent years researching, experimenting, and ultimately transforming his health in ways doctors said weren’t possible.

Now a two-time USA Track & Field Masters National Champion, Daniel shares how he went from debilitating pain to peak performance and how others can begin their own healing journey.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

•  Why chronic pain may not be what you’ve been told 
•  The role inflammation plays in your body 
•  How diet and lifestyle choices impact healing 
•  Simple strategies to start taking control of your health 

Resources & Links:

•  undu.me 
•  linkin.bio/undomethod 

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Transcript

Wendy & Rich 0:01
Coming to you from the Freedom Federal Credit Union Studios, Hartford County living presents conversations with Rich Bennett. "I love rich people." "You're not going to show up!" "I'm not going to show up!" "I'm not going to show up!" "You're not going to show up!" "I'm not going to show up!" "No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 

Rich Bennett 0:49
"That viral myalgia and degenerative arthritis are conditions you'll simply have to live with. By the time you hit 50, you should prepare for four joint replacements. For most people, that kind of diagnosis would mean the end of an athletic life. But today's gas refused to accept that ending. After a decade of excruciating chronic pain and hearing over and over again that nothing could be done, he made a decision. Not just to find a way out for himself but to figure it out for the millions of people suffering from chronic pain. And what happened next sounds almost unbelievable. Instead of preparing for joint replacements, he became a two-time USA track and field's Masters National Champion in an all-American sprinter and world-ranked athlete. Now he's on a mission to help others rewrite the story that have been told about pain and healing. And I'm going to tell you people right now, we were talking in the green room before I hit record. And I've learned so much already, and you are going to learn a lot. I know a lot of people out there, a lot of my friends have fibromyalgia, lupus, chronic pain at the wazoo, guys that I served with. I don't even can't even mention how I can mention it. I don't even know how many different hip replacements and everything else. So today we're talking with Daniel Esposito, creator of the Undo Method about resilience, the science of healing, and why a life defined by chronic pain may not be the life you actually have to live. And he has lived in proof that you don't have to. How's it going, Dan? 

Daniel Esposito 2:42
I'm great, man. Great to be here. Great to talk to you. I'm excited. We had a great vibe going in the green room. So I can't wait to 

Rich Bennett 2:50
talk 

Daniel Esposito 2:51
some more. 

Rich Bennett 2:51
The stuff you were telling me, it blew me away. 

Daniel Esposito 2:55
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 2:55
But I want to go back, I want to go back to the moment when the doctors told your told you your body was basically breaking down. 

Daniel Esposito 3:03
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 3:03
And that you like really need it for joint replacements by the time you turned 50. 

Daniel Esposito 3:08
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 3:09
What was going through your mind when you heard that? 

Daniel Esposito 3:11
Well, it was kind of a slow role into it, as 

Rich Bennett 3:14
Mm-hmm. 

Daniel Esposito 3:14
you kind of age, you think that a lot of this inability to recover is due to aging. And some of it is, you know, but it's mainly due to foods and not being hydrated and, you know, it's just lifestyle choices. But I like the first time that I dealt with something. So previous to the chronic pain, you know, yeah, football things that 

Rich Bennett 3:35
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 3:35
happened. So I've had like 13 surgeries. Right. And so a bunch of them were scopes. A couple were needed. I broke my jaw twice. My first plane, the NFL, was a broken jaw, broke it in two places. And arrowhead stadium. And I 

Rich Bennett 3:50
whole. 

Daniel Esposito 3:50
played 

Rich Bennett 3:50
It would be 

Daniel Esposito 3:50
the 

Rich Bennett 3:50
not nice, but not. 

Daniel Esposito 3:51
Yeah. Yeah, I heard you mean so. I played the whole game, though. Right. I 

Rich Bennett 3:55
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 3:55
played it, you know, is it happened on the first kickoff of the second half, and broke it then didn't fall down. It broke in two places, didn't tell the coaches till the very end of the game. Because, you know, I'm a kid from Miller'sville University in Pennsylvania. You played one year of high school football. So it wasn't like, 

Rich Bennett 4:12
Wow. 

Daniel Esposito 4:13
you know, I wasn't, you know, a Sichuan bark leave coming out of college. And. not saying anything if I'm feeling things. And, you know, my father being a, my stepfather being a Marine. You know, you kind of, you don't complain 

Rich Bennett 4:25
I'm 

Daniel Esposito 4:26
about stuff. Like, yeah, yeah. So when he was a, you know, prick, to be honest with you. So. But, um, yeah, and so, but I've forgiven them honestly. I mean, I 

Rich Bennett 4:36
Yeah. 

Daniel Esposito 4:36
say that sort of jokingly. But, um, you know, the, it's so, you know, I do in the surgeries and stuff like that and, you know, scopes, and you just think that's the way it is because if it wasn't, they would have a better solution for you, right? It's like, you know, you trust your doctors and surgeons and, you know, surgeons like to make money, you know, and I think a lot of doctors go into it with really good intentions. But I think guys who want to be surgeons are like, I see the big money and I'm going 

Rich Bennett 5:05
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 5:05
in that direction. So, the first thing was like my left elbow was starting to really tighten up and tense up, and I was like talking to the surgeon about it because yeah, it's just from wearing tear and that doesn't, you know, what does that even mean? I'm like, but I'm right handed. So, I'm using this one way more. Why isn't there any 

Rich Bennett 5:23
Yeah. 

Daniel Esposito 5:23
wear and tear on this side? So, it's actually from sitting around too much. Like that's why you become stiff. It's not from wear and tear, wear and tear. I mean, the, you know, just movement is great in general, right? 

Rich Bennett 5:35
Yeah. 

Daniel Esposito 5:35
So, and then this is when YouTube was very young. I mean, it was a bunch of years ago, but somebody told me about a chiropractor who had these release techniques and I was like, oh, let me just try that. And it went away. I was like, huh. Okay, so now I'm like really rethinking these surgeons, right? And then so the orthopedic surgeon at Rothman, he basically told me that my muscles were tangled, right? And I'm like, what does that mean? Like that's not even real, right? And so, but then, you know, he also, so when he described, said, I had degenerative arthritis, I'm like, all right, I know that my bones aren't degenerating. Like what is degenerative arthritis? Because I was still strong. I just was, you know, everything was painful. I had no ability, but I was like, there's no way that I I'm degenerating. You know what I mean? So, I did. It just didn't make sense. And then when I was told I had fiber my allergies, that diagnosis came from my chiropractor. And they said I was the tightest person they've ever come across. Like they've never seen anyone so, so tight. And, you know, I had asked them things about, you know, trying to release a certain muscle and it's like, oh, you can't release that muscle. And then you're like, okay, gosh. And it's really they think you can't because their technique can't because your muscles 

Rich Bennett 6:56
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 6:56
get glued together. By so much collagen and, you know, cell tissue death and 

Rich Bennett 7:02
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 7:02
then the fibrosis in their binds it all together. So they can't mechanically break that up because the bonds of collagen are seven times stronger than steel. Right. So you need it and then fiber and, you know, this the the clot from the inflammation, that's like a it's like a bungee cord and plastic altogether. Right. So if you're very stretched and you felt like you've done something the next day you're right back where you 

Rich Bennett 7:29
Yeah. 

Daniel Esposito 7:29
were you were the day before. That's because it's like a bungee cord. But it's also like a plastic water bottle. Right. It bends and it stiffens under pressure, b it cracks. So that cracking you here, it's not your joints. 

Rich Bennett 7:42
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 7:42
Right. It's that visoelastic polymer of a fibrin collagen mesh. So that's hard to break as well. So you need a catalyst to cleave the chemical bond in 

Rich Bennett 7:55
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 7:55
the same way WD40 works on rust. Right. And then that breaks these insoluble proteins and scar tissue, which are really scabs in and collagen. It cleaves it. So now the the body can now start Basically, it's like sandpaper. Right. It's not like it's going to fall off like an iceberg. That initial crack of the bond of the cleave of the bond, you feel that you hear that. Right. It sounds like a hollow crack. 

Rich Bennett 8:23
right. 

Daniel Esposito 8:24
And then the body goes and then very slowly starts breaking it down because you can't overwhelm. You know, your interstitium lymphatic system with too much junk. So it's just taken what it can with the resources that it can. And it slowly over time, things can just start. You're like, oh, wow. What the heck is 

Rich Bennett 8:46
Yeah. 

Daniel Esposito 8:46
that? Like, I mean, I'm walking today. It's crazy. Like I have no forward lean in my back anymore. You know, I mean, my shoulders are starting to really sit back 

Rich Bennett 8:54
Go 

Daniel Esposito 8:54
like 

Rich Bennett 8:55
back. 

Daniel Esposito 8:55
real nice, you know. And you know, it's all thanks to the applying the practices, food supplements to the undo, the undo method that helps the body. You know, I can't, you know, I want to be careful how I clean what I claim, but 

Rich Bennett 9:12
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 9:12
it's helping the body do things more efficiently. Right, so, yeah, so. But yeah, yeah, so, yeah, and so I just, uh, you know, right before my second sun was born, this all started when my first sun was born. I'd started a new business, you know, I was eating a ton of pizza. 

Rich Bennett 9:31
the- 

Daniel Esposito 9:31
Like I mean, 

Rich Bennett 9:31
Still in the NFL, right? 

Daniel Esposito 9:33
No, 

Rich Bennett 9:33
no, 

Daniel Esposito 9:33
no, 

Rich Bennett 9:33
Oh, you're already out, 

Daniel Esposito 9:35
This happened way after. My NFL 

Rich Bennett 9:38
okay. 

Daniel Esposito 9:38
career was very, just, it's short. It 

Rich Bennett 9:40
I'm 

Daniel Esposito 9:40
was- 

Rich Bennett 9:41
thinking of the broken jaw still. 

Daniel Esposito 9:43
Yeah, yeah, no, no, no. This was in like my late, late, late 30s er, you know, early 40s where- 

Rich Bennett 9:48
Okay. 

Daniel Esposito 9:49
So when the doctors were trying to blame it on sports, I was like, yeah, it's not. 

Rich Bennett 9:53
Yeah. 

Daniel Esposito 9:53
Like, I didn't play that much for like one year of high school, right? And you don't hit that hard in high school in the field off you publicly. It's kind of a, you know, 

Rich Bennett 10:00
Ha 

Daniel Esposito 10:01
one that good. 

Rich Bennett 10:01
ha 

Daniel Esposito 10:02
So 

Rich Bennett 10:02
ha. 

Daniel Esposito 10:02
I played one year of high school. I didn't carry the ball much. I was one of the toughest guys out there. So I'm going against kids who were, you know, at the time, like weren't putting it on me, right? And so then in college, I didn't start to the third game of my senior season. I was supposed to start as a junior, right? And then I politics of football and scholarships. I was a walk on and I was told the day two to two or three days before the first game of my junior season that I was the starter. And I earned it like I love the guy who was, you know, my team, my backfield teammates, but, you know, that's my seat. You know, it's like, give me 

Rich Bennett 10:39
Yeah, 

Daniel Esposito 10:39
my seat. You know, I earned it. I was at. But then the day before the first game, the head coach nullified all the other offensive coaches. And so I was like, okay, so the day of the game, I'm like, all right, I'm third string. Like what happened here? I'm like, whatever, I'm going to get my carries. 

Rich Bennett 10:56
right. 

Daniel Esposito 10:56
No carries the first 

Rich Bennett 10:57
running back, right? 

Daniel Esposito 10:58
Running Yeah. No carries the second game. And then I went to the head to my position coach. I was like, all right, what's going on? Because I just hang in there, I spoke, hang in there. And I'm like, no, no, you're gonna tell me what's going on. Or I'm gonna leave. I'm not gonna play football anymore. As soon as I'm going to walk off, you'll never see me again. And he told me the story of what happened. I was like, all right, you told me I'm a man of my word. I'm going to, I'm going to be as great a teammate as possible. And then so my senior year comes around and first game, I get no carries. I was like, what the? Like I'm still the best running back in the 

Rich Bennett 11:31
Yeah. 

Daniel Esposito 11:31
backfield. Like I know, you know, and then second game, you know, we get close to the end of the, of the first half. And I'm still not in and our running backs, we're doing poorly in the first game and in this game. So then they put me in and I think I banged off about 136 yards in the second half. And then the next game, I became the starter had like 360 something yards, all purpose receiving running, you know, three, I think three touchdowns, two point conversion. And then, you know, the scout started coming around. You know, I was a track guy too. Obviously, 

Rich Bennett 12:08
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 12:08
you know, 10-7. My fastest 40 was a 4-2-7. So I could move a little bit and I'm 215-6 foot. So, you know, pretty, pretty decent. So the scout see that and they're like, who is this guy? Then I get signed by the Redskins as a free agent out of, out of college. And then my first game and that first game that I played against it to you, it's an interesting story. As I was a senior leaving high school going into college, the gym I went to, the headcoat that, the guy who owned it was the strength coach for the Jets. This is a little dinky 

Rich Bennett 12:40
Okay. 

Daniel Esposito 12:40
gym in Northeast Philadelphia. It was just fortunate. This guy was here and he goes, Hey, there's a guy in here that plays in the NFL. He needs someone to throw to. We throw with this guy. Of course, I will. About five workouts with this guy and he tells me, you can play in the NFL. Now, this is a kid who played one year of high school football so far. 

Rich Bennett 12:58
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 12:58
And he's like, you can play in the NFL. And I was like, OK, that's pretty, so I go in with that mentality. But I always knew I was going to play in the NFL since I was in fourth grade. I saw it and I was like, I can do that. 

Rich Bennett 13:09
I'm going to do that. You want to do it. 

Daniel Esposito 13:10
And so, I'm sure every kid says that. But so, you know, I go through my career in that first game, I played against him. It was Rich Ganon. He's from Delaware. 

Rich Bennett 13:21
No way. 

Daniel Esposito 13:22
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 13:23
Wow. 

Daniel Esposito 13:23
So just a lot of cool things in my life. Like I've dated like Miss Delaware, Miss Pennsylvania, 

Rich Bennett 13:29
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 13:29
Miss Nebraska. Yeah, I've got I've been in movies and, you know, started. I was just reflect and I don't have much to show for it. Just stories, you know, I mean, it's not like 

Rich Bennett 13:38
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 13:38
I'm this great, you know, superstar. But it's I start looking back on my life and I've had a pretty forest gumpy and kind of existence. I 

Rich Bennett 13:48
love that. 

Daniel Esposito 13:49
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 13:50
But still, I mean, that's a good story. I learned right there, where you know, Rich Ganon was sitting there and helped you out. And that's 

Daniel Esposito 13:56
Yeah. Yeah. I'm 

Rich Bennett 13:57
kind of game. 

Daniel Esposito 13:57
still hoping to reconnect with him, you know, because I haven't seen him since. But yeah, 

Rich Bennett 14:02
it caught me if I'm 

Daniel Esposito 14:03
pivotal part of my life. 

Rich Bennett 14:04
Cured me if I'm wrong, you're redskins and the saints, right? 

Daniel Esposito 14:07
Saints, yeah, here's an interesting story about the saints and how I know that God's moving me through this direction. 

He's been called up, "Hey, the saints want to work you out." Me and my girlfriend, I was in bed at the time. I said the saints want to work me out. We were just like, "What the heck?" You know? And remember, I was an atheist. They're agnosticists before this whole time. And obviously not now, but it's just a lot of cool things that I feel like I was, you're going to get the worst chronic pain. 

Rich Bennett 14:54
Yeah, 

Daniel Esposito 14:55
I think you can figure it out to help other people, right? I mean, I played one year of high school football. I figured out how to get into the NFL. I started an energy broker with no experience, have no idea what even energy was at the time. It became one of the fastest 100 growing companies in Philadelphia, two times two years in a row. You know, I've got a lot of those things. It's just like, and I just always knew, like, if someone can do it, I can do it. I think most people should have that mentality. It's a study that Stanford did that said the most successful people share one thing in common, and that's delusional. They have a delusional belief 

Rich Bennett 15:33
yeah. Really. 

Daniel Esposito 15:33
in there in what they're going to accomplish. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 15:36
Wow. All right, well, I want to get into undue me because 

Daniel Esposito 15:40
yeah, 

Rich Bennett 15:40
you were telling me and like I said, I have friends, a couple of friends that have fibromyalgia. And it's like they can never figure out what they can do. 

Daniel Esposito 15:52
Yeah, 

Rich Bennett 15:52
to help themselves. Loop is another one I had, but 

Daniel Esposito 15:55
yeah, 

Rich Bennett 15:55
I served with 

Daniel Esposito 15:56
both inflammatory diseases. They give them all different names, and they show up as the same things like differences. It's really silly. It's like medicine wants to confuse you. Anything that ends in it is just inflammation. There's 800 different syndromes or disease, whatever you want to call it, that end in it is, it's all the same thing. Inflammation, it's based on inflammation. Inflammation has a couple stages. It's a cycle that's supposed to heal you, but medicine will tell you it's your body attacking itself, not attacking the invader that's in your body that's starting the inflammation cycle. Right. And so let me tell you what the inflammation cycle is. We'll start once again at the cell wall, right, because I think that's really important. Your cell wall is where inflammation starts cells make up everything in your body. When a cell gets stressed by an external stressor external stressor like a car accident is slip and fall a punch, whatever you're going to have a little bit of inflammation or a lot of inflammation. In that area or widespread, especially when you see people fall or have skin accidents or car accidents, that inflammatory response hits your whole body in most cases. Right. So that's going to cause the cells to signal the start of the inflammation cycle. And your cells must be made of a one to one ratio, no more than four to one of omega six to omega three. The omega six is your is like an over-responder to inflammation, the omega three is a mediated response to inflammation. This isn't like scientific. I'm just trying to make it digestible by whose 

Rich Bennett 17:33
right 

Daniel Esposito 17:34
right. So think of the omega six is like somebody who's a little bit nuts, doesn't have much experience. And here's a bump in the night. And then they call in the national guard. Omega three is master gunnery sergeant, Gus Johnson right. So who's just going to kind of like go see what's going on and 

Rich Bennett 17:50
yeah 

Daniel Esposito 17:50
handle it right. The average American has a 15 to one omega six to omega three ratio because of all the seed oils, manufactured foods, restaurant foods, cooking themselves at home and seed oils, even the meat of the chicken we get from the store. Is because they're fed grain and corn doesn't matter if it's organic or not becomes linoleic acid in 30% of their tissue. And that's dosed with high amounts of omega six. Now you can still eat that chicken from the store if you want, because it's not the overwhelming majority, the overwhelming majority is your seed oils. So if you're really like aware of removing seed oils from your diet, and then supplementing back with your omega threes, eating a lot of salmon with 

Rich Bennett 18:38
skin. 

Daniel Esposito 18:38
the You're going to start rebuilding that, um, membrane to a better ratio and you'll notice your inflammation response is lower like all that noise and neuro inflammation is the same thing, right? Your cells and your brain are going to respond the same way. So if you have a stressor. A stressful thought, right? That will create inflammation. 

And of course doctors are going to want to point in 72 different 

Rich Bennett 19:13
except 

Daniel Esposito 19:13
directions, 

Rich Bennett 19:13
right, 

Daniel Esposito 19:14
base of humanity, which is yourself. So yeah. 

Rich Bennett 19:18
Wow. Alright. So. 

Daniel Esposito 19:20
Oh, let me tell you about the rest of the inflammation. So I guys are 

Rich Bennett 19:22
Okay. 

Daniel Esposito 19:22
talking. 

Rich Bennett 19:23
That's all 

Daniel Esposito 19:23
Right. 

Rich Bennett 19:23
right. You're fine. 

Daniel Esposito 19:24
So then what happens is there's a cytokine release. 

Rich Bennett 19:27
Okay. 

Daniel Esposito 19:28
Okay. The cytokines are, you know, then they see reactive proteins. They're basically targeting the invader for the white blood cells to, to destroy. So the cytokine response can create anxiety and, you know, all sorts of other problems. So a substance called p-e-a, which is something I put in my supplement mitigates that cytokine release. So as you're rebuilding that cell wall, a good way to mitigate that cytokine release that's going to alert the rest of the inflammatory responses with the supplement called p-e-a or you just get it from, you know, flexibility fuel. It's in there. Then the glue happens, right, that becomes the clot. That's a fiber in. So, fiber in fibrosis fiber my Algia, right. And so, but there's other things happening at the same time. So it's not just the fiber in, but it's basically because of the inflammation. So then the white blood cells come eat up all the garbage, give it off as lymph. That's why you'll see swelling. 

Rich Bennett 20:34
Okay, 

Daniel Esposito 20:34
Right. So if you, you are real puffy, a good way to reduce that swelling is rubbing caster oil on your body. It will 

Rich Bennett 20:42
really? 

Daniel Esposito 20:42
break down the lymph and let the lymph nodes work more quickly. If you look on my Instagram, which is undue method with you and do you, you'll see a picture of me with a face about this big a friend of mine because I was so swollen in my 

Rich Bennett 20:57
for 

Daniel Esposito 20:57
knees 

Rich Bennett 20:58
those of you listening. He, he, he, like 

Daniel Esposito 21:00
very 

Rich Bennett 21:00
about the 

Daniel Esposito 21:00
hands 

Rich Bennett 21:01
size of a basket. 

Daniel Esposito 21:01
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That you meant now. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I look like a pumpkin face. Like it's, 

Rich Bennett 21:07
Wow. 

Daniel Esposito 21:07
yeah, it's pretty. So, and I was like, what's going on with me, man? Like, I'm like, I was always ripped, right? Like 

Rich Bennett 21:13
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 21:13
both my sons are like pretty ripped. Like my whole family brother was like a model in Miami, you know, like nobody fat. And so, but I had all this puffiness, and it was coming from the constant inflammation. So, friend of mine, we're, you know, at a networking event, and she says, what's going on? He's were gigantic. Both of them for eight months. I couldn't get the swelling down because I was limping. And then she goes, why don't you rub some caster oil on your knees? And I looked at her like she was a witch. I'm like, what do you, 

Rich Bennett 21:39
for her dad? 

Daniel Esposito 21:40
Yeah, well, it's amazing to be honest with you. Yeah. So it gets into the bloodstream and just starts eating up the lymph, the problems and the lymph areas. The next day, I put it on. About a shot glass worth, I heated it up on my stove. I don't use a microwave and then waited till it was warm, not hot. 

Rich Bennett 21:59
Okay. 

Daniel Esposito 21:59
Applied it to my knees. My underarm pits, my groin area where the lymph nodes are. The next day, I went to sleep, and then the next day I woke up, I had no swelling in my knees. Most of the swelling in my body was gone. And I started drain and stuff out of my face for the next three days. It just because when you have constant inflammation, you have constant lymphatic, you know, or, you know, lymph going on. But the other thing is is because of those cytokines, it basically tells your, your thyroid to shut down and under produce. So now women who are in constant inflammation, they go to the doctor, they look at their thyroid to test that. And it's not putting out what it's supposed to put out. So instead of saying, hey, you need to shut down the inflammation, they start giving you a drug for your thyroid. Right. And it's just like that's not what we're trying to do here. 

Rich Bennett 22:53
Right, 

Daniel Esposito 22:54
So anyway, then, so all that happens. The white blood cells go away after all the invaders are destroyed. Hopefully they do. And you know, some cases it's constant. You got to find out what's causing inflammation. And then the white blood cells come back in that area or the red blood cells come back in that area. They carry oxygen and the ability to create electrical charges. So without that red blood in the cell and the muscles, 

Rich Bennett 23:17
yeah. 

Daniel Esposito 23:17
you're going to atrophy. So at about, so your body, you know, as younger people is constantly kind of trying to eat that stuff up. But as we get older, we have less and less of those resources. And then we're constantly feeding ourselves, those resources are tied up and digesting our food. That's why this five day, five meals a day thing, I think, was an intentional way to slow people's healing process down. You should be eating once or twice a day, right? 

Rich Bennett 23:44
What? 

Daniel Esposito 23:44
Yeah, yeah, you should be eating once or twice a day. Because now what's supposed to happen? As at about 20 hours of fasting, when your body says, hey, I haven't eaten in a while, you get a big rush of those enzymes from your liver that are now scouring the body for the fibrin that has been, that is unsolvable. It's insoluble until that enzyme cleans it. Now, it's soluble, right? And then so the other thing that happens in the every inflammation response is you get a collagen response to act like scaffolding in that area. Right? But that collagen has to be created with lysine glycine, proline hydroxyproline. Most of us are going to get that for eating meat, bone broth, things like that. But then there's four cofactors that give the instructions to the amino acids to do their job properly. Or it becomes either unstable or like glue. And that's vitamin C every day, right? 

Rich Bennett 24:46
Okay. 

Daniel Esposito 24:47
Every day copper. Oh, copper. Almost every day. It's essential not only for your collagen, but for your alastin, which provides that snapback, right? 

Rich Bennett 25:00
You find copper. 

Daniel Esposito 25:02
Exactly. Right here on my wrist. So I have a copper bracelet. I have a copper water bottle and it's in liver. But I have a spreadsheet for anyone who signs up to my community. It's free free community. And one of the free resources in there is a spreadsheet of the four essential categories of food nutrients. Right? And it has all the nutrients listed. And it tells you which food sources in each category are the highest bioavailable amount of that nutrient. Then you have your essential amino acids, which I have almost 100% of inflexibility fuel. So if you're buying something like perfect aminos, it's cheaper than perfect aminos. And perfect aminos does not list the amount of essential amino acids in their thing and they're missing one of them. Right? And it's a much more expensive product than mine. And then you have your essential fats and your essential minerals. So the spreadsheet basically breaks down each category of food, meat and chicken, beef, 

Rich Bennett 26:02
Yeah. 

Daniel Esposito 26:02
basically, and chicken, fish, shellfish for those who are kosher, nuts, legumes. I think there's one other category. And then it tells you how many, how much of the RDA you're hitting with this amount of this food. So I call it the world's greatest shopping list. You'll realize after looking at that that we are all massively deficient in just the essentials that we need. And there's only four categories of it. So you know, there's, it's it's imperative for a lot of people to supplement with those things to get what the body needs to make all the other stuff that the body needs. 

Rich Bennett 26:42
Where do people, how can people get the spreadsheet? 

Daniel Esposito 26:44
Yeah. So it's, um, if you go, I think the easiest place to go is my link in bio. It's l i n k i n dot bio slash undo method. Then that's kind of the traffic 

Rich Bennett 26:56
direct. You and you, 

Daniel Esposito 26:57
You and do. It's like hindu because there's a lot of eastern European philosophies in my practice when you start looking at earthine and nasal breathing and 

Rich Bennett 27:05
okay. 

Daniel Esposito 27:05
meditation. And I just thought it was a cool play on name on the name. Yeah. So 

Rich Bennett 27:10
I want to go back at me you mentioned seed oils. So let me get the street. So seed oils aren't good for you. 

Daniel Esposito 27:18
. .'s there, like, so, yeah, I mean, if they're high in omega sixes, right? Which most of them are. So most people think avocado is a seed oil, but avocado's really a fruit. So it's not like a vegetable oil. So if you're getting, like, I think avocado is less, but there's some smoke point issues with that. 

Rich Bennett 27:43
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 27:48
But I really think, like, honestly, butter, ghee, and tallow, and I really go with the butter and the ghee. Or, yeah, I mean, they're way better for you. They contain steric acid, which is actually steric acid creates fat loss. That's why you get meat 

Rich Bennett 28:05
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 28:05
sweats when you eat so much meat. Because it's creating thermogenesis inside the body and heating you up, where little lay a acid, which is from the vegetable oils, their studies that show that it disallows fat cells from dividing. And then it's causing oxidative stress and inflammation and all that other, you know, the cell wall problem. But in all our manufactured foods and breads and stuff, you'll see seed oils, which disallow the fat cells from dividing and folic acid, which drives lipids into cells. So in these health food things that they're putting in all of our manufactured foods is actually making us fatter. So no matter what the calorie content. 

Rich Bennett 28:45
Okay, because so in other words, I need to get rid of my flax seed oil and greepsied oil. 

Daniel Esposito 28:51
Yeah, 

Rich Bennett 28:51
yeah, and just stick with good pure. 

Daniel Esposito 28:55
Yeah. And especially when you heat that up, you're really, you know, when you're cooking with it, it really in the way they produce it, they bleach it. They put all these additives in it. It literally was, it was, it was started out as it, Chrisco started out as submarine lubricant for the 

Rich Bennett 29:11
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 29:11
submarine engines. You know, and they tried to make it into soap. And then they said they couldn't make it into soap, because people were making their own soap back then and they said, why don't we just feed it to them? Yeah, so they're like, okay, it's not a good idea. 

Rich Bennett 29:24
And the reason I asked is because I love salmon 

Daniel Esposito 29:28
and you've 

Rich Bennett 29:29
got to have the skin on there. 

Daniel Esposito 29:31
Now, you're in Maryland so hopefully you, and I guess there's no Eastern salmon. There's only comes from the west coast. So are you getting it from the store? Is it farm raised? 

Rich Bennett 29:40
No, I will not buy anything. 

Daniel Esposito 29:42
Okay. 

Rich Bennett 29:42
The only thing I get that's farm raised will be oysters. 

Daniel Esposito 29:45
Okay, 

Rich Bennett 29:47
because here to Chesapeake Bay, you know, there's a lot. Well, you know, 

Daniel Esposito 29:51
yeah, yeah, yeah, we're right here 

Rich Bennett 29:53
oysters. 

Daniel Esposito 29:53
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 29:54
Yeah. But yeah, no, I, that's when I go to the grocery store, and those of you listening, this is important. A couple of things I always look at. If it's farm raised, I don't want it. If it's, because it usually means it's also got the artificial coloring and all of that. 

Daniel Esposito 30:10
But you should look at videos of like farm farms. And then it'll just completely turn you off from it. 

Rich Bennett 30:16
Yeah. And if it's previously frozen, which is something they have to say now, I don't buy because you can't freeze it again. 

Daniel Esposito 30:24
Oh, I didn't know that 

Rich Bennett 30:25
Yeah, if you look, if you're looking at the fish that was previously frozen, you don't want to freeze it again. You want to 

Daniel Esposito 30:32
interesting. 

Rich Bennett 30:32
cook it right away. 

Daniel Esposito 30:33
Okay. 

Rich Bennett 30:34
Yeah, just. 

Daniel Esposito 30:35
Well, I get all my, all my stuff is delivered from wild Alaska. And then I get all my meats delivered from wild pastures. I get my raw milk and eggs delivered from a local farm here. And yeah, 

Rich Bennett 30:48
explain what raw milk and eggs are. 

Daniel Esposito 30:50
So well, not they're too. 

Rich Bennett 30:52
Not raw eggs, okay? 

Daniel Esposito 30:53
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Rich Bennett 30:54
Okay, 

Daniel Esposito 30:54
okay. So raw milk is just unpasturized, unprocessed milk. It's, you know, when you pasteurize, it's so it's heat pasteurization, which I think that one is what kills all the enzymes that that's why people are lactose intolerant because it's missing the enzymes that helps digest the milk. Right. And then it's lacking. Oh, what's the other pasteurization that I think that's the one that gets rid of all the nutrients. So you're just drinking white water for the most part that's going to make you stuffed up, you know. So when you drink raw milk, most people have no conceptualization of it because they think it's gooey. Like it's, it's, I would say it's like regular milk and an ice cream mix. It's like a thicker, tasty like when people drink, I make every new person who comes to my house drink raw milk. I'm like, you're going to drink this and they're like, oh, my God, like I didn't, like, it's just hit you. And you're like, that is really good. And then the eggs I get the, you know, just farm raised eggs from chickens, it's omesh from an omesh, 

Rich Bennett 31:56
okay. 

Daniel Esposito 31:57
You know, farm out 

Rich Bennett 31:58
So 

Daniel Esposito 31:58
here. 

Rich Bennett 31:58
role milk see what about for somebody that's like to us in tolerance right 

Daniel Esposito 32:02
I think it's worth a try. And a lot of times they say that the lactose intolerant is actually intolerance to the A1 protein in the milk. So there's A2 protein from store, store, milk. But that's from those, like, those broma, broma cows. You know what I mean? Like those Indian cows have the A2 protein. And people who have been diagnosed with lactose intolerance and that's mainly just a guess by your doctor, right? You just, you don't know, it could just be... "Apeningin." Yeah, 

Rich Bennett 32:33
"Yeah. 

Daniel Esposito 32:33
well, they're all trained the same way, you know? So it could just be that that milk, you know, or something else that you're doing in conjunction with your milk might be causing stomach discomfort, or you just have poor, you know, leaky gut that's, you know, causing some issues. So it could be a lot of different things. But I don't, you know, then there's the list area thing, right? So there was just another list area outbreak 

for 

Rich Bennett 32:58
Well, yeah. Yeah. Too long. 

Daniel Esposito 32:59
processed meats, right? But you know, but the raw milk, you find like a handful of them, maybe a year, of just a few people getting a list area from it. But, you know, 

Rich Bennett 33:09
"So it's probably a good reason for people to support their local farms?" 

Daniel Esposito 33:13
"Oh, not just that. It's so much healthier for you. 

Rich Bennett 33:16
"Yeah." 

Daniel Esposito 33:16
Your relationship with food should be, like your relationship with your pet or your dog. I mean, your kid, you know, it's like, it should be a loving, kind relationship that you are loving yourself enough to prepare 

food that is going to serve you, right? And I'm not, like I said before, I'm not perfect. I'm, you know, I got a five hour energy next to me right now. And, you know, 

Rich Bennett 33:41
you've 

Daniel Esposito 33:41
last 

Rich Bennett 33:42
been 

Daniel Esposito 33:42
year I put 

Rich Bennett 33:42
learning all this stuff. 

Daniel Esposito 33:44
What's that? 

Rich Bennett 33:45
But you've been learning all this stuff. You're, I mean, you've been doing deep research, 

Daniel Esposito 33:48
Oh, I lost 10 years of my life to chronic pain. So, you know, losing movement, you know, I didn't really identify as like a football player or anything. I was just a good at movement and I was strong, right? So I played baseball growing up. I like the skateboard freestyle bikes, you know, I was doing everything. And then when my football career was over and I was working and now it's time to go out to the nightclubs and, you know, explore that world, dancing was my superpower. I didn't even need to talk to girls. It was, 

Rich Bennett 34:19
right? 

Daniel Esposito 34:19
you know, it was, I was pretty good. And so I lost both my superpowers or my main superpower, you know, ability to play sports. But then, you know, when I got all these diagnoses and my second son was about to be born, he was like three months away. I was like, I was not the greatest father all the time to my first kid. 

Rich Bennett 34:39
Okay. 

Daniel Esposito 34:39
I intended to be, but you are so anxious and on edge all the time that you just kind of show up, not that great. And so when the second son was born and his mom is, you know, she's 20 years younger than me, I was like, she's not going to stay with me. I'm not going to be good dad. I'm not useful, you know, like, I don't have like the greatest personality. So I'm just going to stay with me if I can't, you know, reach reach the high shelf or help paint the house or pick up after myself. I mean, even tying my shoes, stopping, sleeping, everything was like my body was on fire internally and it was coming out as anxiety and anger. You know, and like even if I would tell myself, you chill out, dude. 

Rich Bennett 35:24
Yeah, 

Daniel Esposito 35:24
it's like fight or flight is fight or flight. You were, you have a really tough time managing that when it gets at a certain level. 

Rich Bennett 35:33
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Daniel Esposito 37:22
starting to come, but the lymphatic problem was there. And that's because I was, when I started my energy brokers, I was eating like three times a week, I'd have Domino's pizza by one, get one free, and I'd eat it myself, right? 'Cause I was like so intent on figuring this business out and, you know, making money, I had a kid on the way, like things were, you know, things were coming at me. And so, but then I went to Netflix to like figure out some health advice and saw some juicing videos. And that's when we talked about juicing spinach. Well, you know, they got all these documentaries and people claimed, you know, have, you know, the cure for everything. But, and so, one of them was like, "Oh, well, spinach is a superfood "and beets are superfoods." And you know, I didn't, what defines something as a superfood? I didn't even, like, how'd you come up with that name? It's, the only superfood is meat and liver. That's the only superfood that delivers the most amount of bioavailable nutrients to your body. Stuff your body can actually utilize. 

Rich Bennett 38:22
Pure meat and liver, not processed. 

Daniel Esposito 38:25
Correct, yeah, yeah. I mean, meat, yo know, you know, I mean, yeah, not processed meat, like baloney and, you know, 

Rich Bennett 38:32
No, 

Daniel Esposito 38:32
hamburger. 

Rich Bennett 38:32
even 

Daniel Esposito 38:33
Donalds. 

Rich Bennett 38:33
I bring this up because, and I thought I could, and I wish I had 

the source, but, I remember reading something about certain meats for the grocery store can be mixed with meats from other different places. 

Daniel Esposito 38:54
I don't find my meat at a grocery 

Rich Bennett 38:55
Oh, you say 

Daniel Esposito 38:55
store, 

Rich Bennett 38:56
you-- 

Daniel Esposito 38:56
yes. 

Rich Bennett 38:56
Yeah, 

Daniel Esposito 38:57
(laughs) 

Rich Bennett 38:57
huh? 

Daniel Esposito 38:57
Yeah, I don't find my meat at a grocery store. So, I, I should look into that and see, 

Rich Bennett 39:01
Yeah. 

Daniel Esposito 39:01
because that's, that's, I'm curious about that. 

Rich Bennett 39:04
Yeah, and I heard that you're better off getting it from the local farm. 

Daniel Esposito 39:09
Oh, yeah. 

Rich Bennett 39:10
Grocery stores were also like, I don't know if it's done at the-- I doubt it's done at the grocery store, but wherever you get to meet sometimes, it's like it's almost like the fish injected with thighs or whatever, 

Daniel Esposito 39:22
Yeah, 

Rich Bennett 39:22
like that-- 

Daniel Esposito 39:23
soup. 

Rich Bennett 39:24
Red finish on it, 

Daniel Esposito 39:25
So, vitality farms where I used to get my eggs from, so I decided 

Rich Bennett 39:29
right? 

Daniel Esposito 39:29
to not do that anymore, says pasture raced, turns out they're not pasture raced. So, when you crack it open, you'd see the yellow yolk, and you're like, the really bright yellow, and you're like, okay, well, this is a healthy chicken. They put dye into their feed to make the yolk yellow. 

Rich Bennett 39:43
Really? 

Daniel Esposito 39:44
Yeah, so you know, when you go to the supermarket, you don't really know what you're going to get. And if you really take some time to look around the supermarket, 

Rich Bennett 39:52
Mm-hm. 

Daniel Esposito 39:53
in my giant, where I live, there is one small, like I could walk around the streets with this table of fruit and vegetables that are organic. The rest of the supermarket is definitely spread in glyphosate, is definitely, you know, manufactured foods for 

Rich Bennett 40:12
Right, 

Daniel Esposito 40:12
the majority of what's going on. And, you know, we talked about that folic acid, you know, folic acid, at high doses just acts like a neurotoxin in the brain. And so they spray it on all the manufactured foods, they call it enrich it, but they're poisoning it with this folic acid that if you're a parent and you send your kid to school in the morning with a flinstone chewable vitamin, chewable vitamin, they're a third of the way to the upper limit. Now you've given them a bowl of cereal or a muffin, whatever, a snack bar, probably about halfway to the, not the safe limit toward the upper limit, then they have a slice of pizza at school. They're going to get to about three quarters of the way there. They come home and have a bowl of spaghetti or so and a snack, they're at or right around or over the upper limit. Now that folic acid is going to stay in your system for a few days. So now the next day you do that again. And now you've put even more on top of that and more on top of that. And what folic acid is said to do is create an enzyme in the same way folate does that manages histamine, right? And so if you're putting off too much histamine, it's putting you in fight or flight. You'll call it ADD with your kid at school, 

Rich Bennett 41:28
right, right. 

Daniel Esposito 41:29
right? But it's really he's not managing histamine. So people with mast cell activation syndrome, you know, other, you know, sorts of diseases. If you've got this high histamine response all the time, it's a really good thing to AI, like what does high histamine cause in the body? And then you have anxiety all the time. So now we have this very anxious and depressed population, especially with kids, but histamine anxiety becomes homocysteine if it's not converted. And then that homocysteine is linked to depression, right? Like massively linked to 

Rich Bennett 42:05
Okay. 

Daniel Esposito 42:05
depression. Now, homocysteine is supposed to convert to methionine, which regulates your dopamine, your reward center. You must have B12 in your body for those genes to work. B12 is not in anything but meat, right? So vegetarians eventually that homocysteine is going to build up and get they'll get a diagnosis of high homocysteine or something like that. 

Rich Bennett 42:33
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 42:34
It creates pressure behind the eyes, it causes vision problems. And then I believe it's homocysteine that becomes ammonia if it's not processed through. So now you have ammonia running through your brain in your body, right? And that's why I think a lot of women get postpartum because those pills are not a lot of folic acid in them. 

Rich Bennett 42:54
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 42:54
Then when they come off of them, now they've got depression because all the other things aren't supporting it. And you've blocked, You know, the ability for his folate to do its job because these folic, the folic acid is sitting on the folate receptors, blocking folate. So even if you're 

Rich Bennett 43:13
right? 

Daniel Esposito 43:13
doing a lot of folic acid and you're like, well, I'm also eating a lot of spinach. It's too bad. That's that scent that receptor is already occupied by folic acid. And half of the population can't convert folic acid into the enzyme that's supposed to manage this. So you talk about people with PTSD and anxiety and stuff like that. It's like, you know, let's reset your trigger over here. You still need to do some work, but your trigger has been moved so close to your thinking that you're not able to pause and just kind of say, I'm okay. And you know, whatever your reaction has been set over here because your histamine response is so exaggerated. 

Rich Bennett 43:55
Wow. 

Daniel Esposito 43:55
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 43:56
Holy cow, the formula and that's a, what is a powder? 

Daniel Esposito 44:03
Mine is a powder. Yeah. So what wait, let's kind of go through the evolution of the things. I once again, I got off on a tangent. So decided I was going to fix it. My friend said something to me was able to get rid of that, you know, lymph that was going on and then a few months later when my son was about six months, seven months old. I went to a Philly's game with some friends and, you know, his mom and I had a beer too and I felt so much worse. Now after 

Rich Bennett 44:30
Really? 

Daniel Esposito 44:31
the lymphatic drainage, my bad head days went from 28 a month to about 15 a month where I just couldn't focus and could it was so foggy. 

Rich Bennett 44:42
Wow. 

Daniel Esposito 44:42
and then so there's still you know stuff to figure out mentally and then I had that beer and it put me into that place and I was like maybe I'm acidic and then I started looking at water and I realized all the water I'm drinking has no mineral content it's purified right and it's basically you don't want to have acidity too much acidity in your body and so I don't know if I was scientifically sound but I went and got some really good high pH water 

Rich Bennett 45:11
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 45:11
which you know there's some debate there and you know I I who knows why this worked for maybe just the hydration itself it cleared my head up almost immediately and I was like maybe I'm dehydrated so I look to the a podcast with Dr. Zach Bush and Dr. Mercola talking about proper hydration and they said hydration proper hydration is at the cellular level meaning good water needs to come into the cell to make it function properly right so a lot of us aren't getting good water into ourselves sells make up everything and I thought well if sells make up everything if I just make my cells healthier is that going to improve something so the next thing I did was red light therapy because it's supposed to do that and I was like take it and it was going to be a good one. It increased the mitochondria function and you know do some other things but what it also does that I found out much later because I you know at this point I'm just throwing darts 

Rich Bennett 46:03
right 

Daniel Esposito 46:04
blindfolded what it actually does is that range of that wavelength of light penetrate penetrates deeper into the tissue and can affect the chemical bonds of the fibrosis by cleaving them so that's when they're spraying all the stuff over our head are healing ability is so limited because if you look you don't see the red's they're blocking the red the near the red's from the from the light so it's causing us to not heal and so a near range infrared light and like a sun lamp or really I have both of them I think it's especially for people up here in the Northeast mid Atlantic and so I was like I would walk out of that session and I'd hear a click I'd be like a hollow sounding like a tube tubular 

Rich Bennett 46:53
tubular 

Daniel Esposito 46:54
whatever like there's little 

Rich Bennett 46:54
tubular tubular yeah 

Daniel Esposito 46:55
tubes you like a little while you crack like glass tubes and so and then I'd feel relief in that part of the muscle I was like ooh I just something happened just tiny little things and I was like okay this is working and every time I did it be like one or two clicks and one or two little pieces of relief I was like okay something's happening like okay and I'm just falling forward without making mistakes at this like everything 

Rich Bennett 47:18
yeah 

Daniel Esposito 47:18
I did I made one big mistake and we'll talk about that but I'm and then so I bought a near range infrared light and I sleep under it every night. Every single night and my dog my show hours will get under it they love it And then the next thing I did was a fast and so I started fasting and I told my friend I was fasting and she goes we should try a three day fast the snake diet guy does three day fast I was like okay well if he's gonna do it I'm gonna do it he's a whack job 

Rich Bennett 47:44
right 

Daniel Esposito 47:44
he's 

Rich Bennett 47:44
right 

Daniel Esposito 47:44
amazing I love the guy you should google him snake juice diet He's Canadian every one of his videos starts with hey fatty and you're like oh well that's me let me let me at the time So anyway he had this three day fast and so I did the three day fast but it like day two click click click click click click my back starts unwinding like things just start clicking and then what that I thought that was from something else but later find out it's that ends the matic release they're going and like Pac-Man eaten up some of the fibrosis so it allows the body to remove it so I was like okay well that's working and so I just got done a four day fast the other day it's one of the best things you do And then some okay things are happening but I was researching and researching probably for years to two years to try to figure out what might have been happening there and I Finally came across some things and there wasn't it and a couple years later figured out what it was but you know This has been like an eight year journey of studying like 

Rich Bennett 48:40
Okay, 

Daniel Esposito 48:40
you know and I'm still learning like the fat thing with the cells I just learned that a few like a month or two ago, you know because I was curious 

Rich Bennett 48:46
right. 

Daniel Esposito 48:46
like okay Well, here's this other essential. How does it a lack of it contribute the chronic pain and then AI is just starts taking you down these really good, you know, 

Rich Bennett 48:55
Yeah 

Daniel Esposito 48:56
pathways and you really learn a lot but so and then a friend this is the mistake. This is the huge cautionary tale So a friend another friend of mine. She goes have you tried sulfur like MSM, right? You've heard a lot of people using MSM can draw it and stuff like that and that's sulfur. So what sulfur does is help re-synthesize the collagen So we're all building our collagen without the proper nutrients, right? So it needs to be re-synthesized meaning that you need to break it down and it takes what it can use to build more collagen gets rid of the junk I'm highly allergic to sulphur, I did not know this. So for months, maybe years, I was doing Epson salt baths, increasing sulphur, I was doing, uhm, sulphur in my supplement, you know, in the concoction I was making, and then also this thing, anacetyl cysteine, which also I do vary poorly with. So now COVID starting, I'm starting to, you know, start with sulphur, our family is so close together, I'm turning it into a maniac, I think it's just because what's going on in the world and the danger and the kids are here all the time, but it turns out I was like poisoning myself with sulphur. Now you can mitigate that with glutathione and coq10. Glutathione drip is one of the best things you'll ever do, especially if you do a hyperbaric oxygen therapy right afterwards. It's the most expensive thing to do in my program, most of everything else is like free, it's like just practices like breathing and earthing and what's the science behind this stuff, right. But acupuncture, glutathione and hyperbaric oxygen therapy are ways that push you so far forward that you have to implement it into your routine if you're really serious. Like all the other stuff is going to have you no 

Rich Bennett 50:47
right. 

Daniel Esposito 50:47
impact, 

Rich Bennett 50:47
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 50:48
But this has massive impact, right. 

Rich Bennett 50:51
Okay. 

Daniel Esposito 50:51
And so I acupuncture myself, I do it a couple times a week, I'm sitting there with needles just getting in there and this is why I know what's going on in there, right. 

Rich Bennett 51:00
right 

Daniel Esposito 51:00
I have 

Rich Bennett 51:01
to 

Daniel Esposito 51:01
this 

Rich Bennett 51:01
do it yourself. 

Daniel Esposito 51:02
Yeah, it's the first thing. So one of the first thing I think this might have been the first thing I ever did is I started to try B12 shots because my energy was so 

Rich Bennett 51:13
bad. Right. 

Daniel Esposito 51:14
So I, you know, I was always a natural athlete, didn't believe in you know, taking steroids and all that stuff. And so I was looking at this needle and like, I put this needle in my butt, you're right. And this is like, I'm like, what's it going to feel like I don't know. And so I'm like, I forget. I just, I hit a super tough piece of muscle. The muscle, the needle spat, like was shaking like crazy, I was like, Oh, God, what did I do? And then the muscle relaxed took pressure off my sciatica and my sciatica pain was going in one acupuncture needle. So I was like, so then I started going to see an acupuncturist, but it's like 80 bucks a session. And I don't tell people to do this themselves, but I believe you're allowed to be trained by your acupuncturist to do it yourself. Like I, there's no laws 

Rich Bennett 52:03
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 52:03
against 

Rich Bennett 52:03
Yeah. 

Daniel Esposito 52:03
that, right? And I'm not telling people they should do it, but it is expensive. But the benefit of me doing it myself is I get to feel what's going on inside of there. Right. And it's like, what's that oxalates? Right. And so, you know, that's, you know, just tough tissue. That's definitely some fiber. And, you know, to me, like, you just really start understanding what's going on in there. And as you get in there and you feel the release and you're like, wait a minute, that's all I had to do. You know, let me just put this little tiny needle in this area and now all of a sudden I can bend my arm better. You know, it's, it's so I, you know, so those are the two things that can get expensive for people in the whole method. But most people aren't trying to be a world-class master sprinter. They're just trying to tie their shoes, you know what I mean? 

Rich Bennett 52:49
Yeah. 

Daniel Esposito 52:49
So, 

yeah, so, I don't even know where we were. But yeah, so sulfur is something if you're going to try that. And that's why I don't put it in my supplement, although it's massive. It's one of the things that are massively beneficial physically that I can't do that probably a lot of other people can do that can accelerate their response as well. 

Rich Bennett 53:10
Okay. 

Daniel Esposito 53:10
So, yeah, I don't know where we were going there. But, oh, it's just the creation of it. Yeah. So, 

Rich Bennett 53:17
yeah, just 

Daniel Esposito 53:18
keep falling forward, falling forward, falling forward and then, you know, 

Rich Bennett 53:21
how can people get it? 

Daniel Esposito 53:23
So, once again, you can go to my link in .bio/undo method or just go right to undo. me, which is you and do. me. The site is under construction right now. You can still get the supplement, but we're, I'm putting a calendar in there and some other things in there to so people can engage with me more, but it will, if you go to my link in bio, it'll take you to my platform where my 

Rich Bennett 53:50
right. 

Daniel Esposito 53:51
program is hosted, but it's really a community that I'm trying to build out of people who are intentional about healing and who are going to stay positive and like not just throw out suggestions. They're going to be like, here's the science behind these. You 

Rich Bennett 54:05
Yeah. 

Daniel Esposito 54:05
know, if you go on Facebook and go into a fibromyalgia, chronic pain community, a lot of negativity, a lot of people giving bad advice. I've offered so many people to walk through my program for free or I try to tell them my supplement and they tell me, I've never had fibromyalgia. I'm a scammer. I'm a liar and I'm like, I thought I was going to be a hero to these people. You know, like, hey, I've got this thing that's 

Rich Bennett 54:30
you. 

Daniel Esposito 54:30
going to 

Rich Bennett 54:30
There's 

Daniel Esposito 54:30
really help 

Rich Bennett 54:31
always going to be haters, Dan. You knew 

Daniel Esposito 54:33
But 

Rich Bennett 54:33
that. 

Daniel Esposito 54:33
I get it though in this, in this as my anxiety went away because as my pain went away, my responses to those people became more loving. 

Rich Bennett 54:45
Yeah. 

Daniel Esposito 54:46
Before I would kind of fight back, you know, not terribly, but, you know, but now I'm like, I get it. I was you. I totally understand what you're going through. You know, whatever, but I did get some guy yesterday from Ireland, 26 year old guy, a young guy who, I think he's 26, but so I offer people free reviews of my website. I'm actually doing one book. There's a link on my link in dot bio as well. I'm doing a free presentation next Sunday at four o'clock, which I don't know if this will be out by then. But if you go there and you listen to it, I'm going to be doing those probably at least once a month. 

Rich Bennett 55:27
Okay. 

Daniel Esposito 55:27
Just give it for free, right? And you, it's, you know, if you've got the ability to screen record, go ahead. Like, I don't care. I want you to heal, but I also think there's some value in it, so I charge $196 for the whole program every update as well as you get one free bottle of flexibility fuel. So that's like a 50 something dollar. 

Rich Bennett 55:50
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 55:50
Right. You're right there. And then the, if you had, if I had this information back when I first started, we wouldn't be here, right? I would have just followed. And that would have been years ago. I would have been, you know, in what I would call recovery or if you don't have that kind of money or you don't believe in it, you know, it's $13. 69 a month. You can get through it in a day, 

Rich Bennett 56:14
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 56:14
right? You know, realistically, a week, easily a month. And then just cancel it after that. I mean, but it, it has so much information, education, strategies, the science behind the strategy. It' 100% natural and 100% backed in multiple third party studies like this information has been out there. I've just aggregated it. 

Rich Bennett 56:36
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 56:37
You know, I'm not a scientist. I'm just some guy that decided to figure it out. 

Rich Bennett 56:41
But you're coaching people mad at us. 

Daniel Esposito 56:43
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. So I've got like, you know, a bunch of former NFL players are taking. 

Rich Bennett 56:48
I was going to ask you, right. 

Daniel Esposito 56:49
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can't wait because there's a guy Rocky Cleaver who, you know, he's a buddy of mine. And I, you know, he's been taking it and I called him the other day and he's like, yeah, man, it's he's like, he's super pumped. And I want to get these guys on video to do like a little review of it. And he's like, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I got a guy and no one's gonna, this is anecdotal. I don't want to claim that my supplement had anything to do with this. But I got a buddy, Tom. He's been going through surgeries for the last 11 years, all sorts of surgeries, you know, chronic pain type of things. And I think it's all Frankenstein surgeries, to be honest with you. I want you really start understanding what the body is. But he's been on, you know, opioids for that amount of time. He sent me a text message. I could pull it up and show it to you. He sent me a text message to Dan. I will call you tomorrow. But I want you today. I want you to know that I'm four days off opioids. Thank you so much. And then I call them the next day. And I was like, you just quit cold turkey. I said, any side effects. He's like, a little insomnia. But I keep says the pain level. Just for whatever reasons, not saying flexibility fuels anything to do with it. He said, the pain level is the same but without all the side effects. But what the supplement is designed to do is target the chemical bonds of the things that's actually causing the pain. And then what is pain? Let me just tell you exactly what pain is. Pain is part of your central nervous system. It's these things called nocaceptors. They're pain receptors, right? And so they medicine will tell you it's a pain processing disorder. It's processing just as God intended. It is something is aggravating that pain receptor constantly. The end of the pain receptor may not have enough mile in on it. Which is kind of a protein that keeps it from being so sensitive. 

Rich Bennett 58:39
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 58:40
Ben Fodiumene, which just happens to be in my supplement, is the precursor to create more of that myelin. Right. So now you've got all these pain receptors all over your body. Seven times more sensitive in your fascia, which is your connective tissue, where your movement is, but your joints are also there. You think you have a joint problem. You have a fascia problem that's constantly aggravating these pain receptors. And so when you get in there with an acupuncture needle and break that apart, boom, pain just disappears. It's magical. Right. It's pretty crazy. And so, 

yeah. So it's sending a signal to the brain. And then because your brain's only going to hold on to so many pain points at a time, wherever you're aggravating the pain receptors, where you're going to feel it, that's when I went to get my shoulders looked at. He's like, well, where does it hurt? No, it's right there. No, no, no, it's over there. Wait, no, it's over here. 

Rich Bennett 59:35
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 59:35
It's because now your brain's just saying, oh, your, your, your signals coming from here now, it's coming from here, now it's coming from here now. And so that's why pain moves around in the body so much. 

Rich Bennett 59:45
One of the things I always hated is, you know, when they show you this face, is it's like, well, where's your pain level. 

Daniel Esposito 59:52
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 59:52
like, has 

Daniel Esposito 59:53
It's 

Rich Bennett 59:54
anybody ever hit the 10 level? I mean, 

Daniel Esposito 59:56
Oh, we're all at 10. Pain is pain. Yeah. So it's an interesting thing. So just because I've gotten rid of so much of the fibrosis and scar tissue and oxidative stress, doesn't mean I don't still have pain or stiffness in certain places. And you can have one thing of pain left of the 99% 

Rich Bennett 1:00:12
right, 

Daniel Esposito 1:00:12
that you got rid of that is still painful. If you stick a knife in your arm 

Rich Bennett 1:00:17
it's 

Daniel Esposito 1:00:17
and you stick 

Rich Bennett 1:00:17
painful. 

Daniel Esposito 1:00:17
a thousand knives in your arm, that one knife is still painful. It's 

Rich Bennett 1:00:20
Yeah. 

Daniel Esposito 1:00:20
going to affect you. So yeah, so that's why my training is still compromised. Like I literally don't train before I go to these events. Like, I'm not. 

Rich Bennett 1:00:28
So you're still 

Daniel Esposito 1:00:29
Oh, I ran last year. I was, I think, you know, it came over the loudspeaker. I didn't even announce it. It's a dana spazito and Lane, whatever ranked 15th in the world last year and whatever the heck he said. And I was like, oh, okay. I didn't didn't realize that. And then but I'm like a four or five time all American, which I also didn't realize until somebody brought up the, you know, this website 

Rich Bennett 1:00:51
running. 

Daniel Esposito 1:00:52
that you 

Rich Bennett 1:00:52
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 1:00:52
can go to for that. But I knew about my national championships because I was actually running in them. So yeah, you got two gold metals in 2022 and Kentucky at the national championships there. 

Rich Bennett 1:01:04
All right. So how could people, well, we know about the website. But how can people actually find is there anywhere else besides LinkedIn? 

Daniel Esposito 1:01:11
yeah. I mean, everything else is is not LinkedIn, though. It's link in bio. It's a different. 

Rich Bennett 1:01:16
Oh, 

Daniel Esposito 1:01:17
It's like one of those little 

Rich Bennett 1:01:18
Yeah, I knew 

Daniel Esposito 1:01:18
landing 

Rich Bennett 1:01:18
that I 

Daniel Esposito 1:01:19
pages. 

Rich Bennett 1:01:19
was testing you, man. 

Daniel Esposito 1:01:20
Yeah. Yeah. So it's link in. Dot bio slash undo method. But I'm at undo method across all social media's 

Rich Bennett 1:01:29
Okay. 

Daniel Esposito 1:01:30
media platforms. And then, you know, my website is www. undu. me. So very soon there's going to be a calendar there where you can just schedule like 20, 30 minutes with me, an hour with me. I will stay on with you as long as I need to as long as you need, as long as I don't have something coming up. You know what I mean? So it's like, even if you paid for 30 minutes, I might stay on with you 

Rich Bennett 1:01:53
hours. 

Daniel Esposito 1:01:53
for two 

Rich Bennett 1:01:54
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 1:01:54
It's like to be honest. I'm not here to get rich. I'm here to help people. So that's going to be up on my website very soon. But I would say go, you know, go to my website, click on the community, join the community, you know, it's going to start filling up soon. I've been I probably did 30 podcasts in the last like 45, 50 days. So Bob Marley's nephew reached out to me to do 

Rich Bennett 1:02:15
Get 

Daniel Esposito 1:02:15
a 

Rich Bennett 1:02:15
out. 

Daniel Esposito 1:02:15
documentary on fiber my uncle's. Name's Charles Maddox. Yeah, and nothing's in stone, you know, like, but 

Rich Bennett 1:02:20
Yeah. 

Daniel Esposito 1:02:20
they really want me involved with it. And he's an award-winning documentarian. A lot of like reverse this disease, reverse this disease type titles. 

Rich Bennett 1:02:30
Man, yeah, I'm going to have to get you on again, because I 

Daniel Esposito 1:02:33
I'll come on all the time, dude. I love talking about this so much. 

Rich Bennett 1:02:36
know, 

Daniel Esposito 1:02:36
It's like I need to find other things to be, you know, as hobbies. So I started getting into F1 and guns and, you know, going to take 

Rich Bennett 1:02:44
oh, 

Daniel Esposito 1:02:44
my kid carton, but I need other things 

Rich Bennett 1:02:46
Do 

Daniel Esposito 1:02:46
to 

Rich Bennett 1:02:46
you haven't 

Daniel Esposito 1:02:46
talk 

Rich Bennett 1:02:47
started 

Daniel Esposito 1:02:47
about. 

Rich Bennett 1:02:47
your own podcast, yet? 

Daniel Esposito 1:02:51
have the time, 

Rich Bennett 1:02:52
I don't 

Daniel Esposito 1:02:52
you know, I got two kids, two baby, mom was too tall, I was in two businesses. Yeah. So and two broken jaws. 

Rich Bennett 1:03:00
It definitely does take time. So before before I get to my last questions, or anything you would like to add, 

Daniel Esposito 1:03:07
You know, don't trust your diagnosis. A lot of them are wrong. Don't let that be your death sentence either. You know, there is, like, so once again, everything that ends initis is just inflammation. So when people get these diagnoses and one of them's like a new one that's becoming really prevalent and that's ankle losing. Spondyl, which means spine, itis, which means inflammation. So stiff inflammation of the spine is basically what it means. It's literally arthritis of the spine, right? It's no different than your chronic regional pain syndrome is just, oh, it's here, here, here, and here. But you missed one point that would say fibromyalgia. So we can't tell you fibromyalgia yet until it starts hurting here. Right, they're all just guesses by doctors. You can't see this stuff under Right. So they can't see oxidative tissue or poor collagen synthesis or you know, even fibrosis under medical imaging. So they're really just guessing based on symptoms. And so you know, use it like AI has been such a great tool for me to really get my research. I just last six months. I've really been jamming with it. Get curious. You know, everything that I say, be curious about it. Don't believe me. You know, go in with a skeptical mind because that's your, you know, and then be open to change. Right. 

Rich Bennett 1:04:28
medical imaging. 

Daniel Esposito 1:04:29
I've gone from political party to political party to no political party at all. Right. Because I was open to looking at different sides and you start looking at things. Oh, that's a good point. That's a good point. But you never open to change. So now I don't think politics is, you know, it's all nonsense. But you know, you have to say I'm wrong. That's 

Rich Bennett 1:04:47
Right. 

Daniel Esposito 1:04:48
another thing. Like I want to be right so bad that I need to be wrong. Because if I stick with them right, I might be wrong. So 

Rich Bennett 1:04:58
we'll 

Daniel Esposito 1:04:58
yeah, 

Rich Bennett 1:04:59
tell you learn as well. 

Daniel Esposito 1:05:00
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent. So it's, you know, people get their, get set in and they think their doctors are miracle workers and most of them have been trained on just ways to prescribe and do surgery. And I think a lot of them are really well intentioned. But like, let's just take a chiropractic real quick. If you're going to a chiropractic to fix this stuff, those collagen bonds are seven times stronger than steel. That fibrosis is going to bend. He can't, you know, he can't break through this stuff. He's going to give you temporary leave. You need a catalyst in there. So that's like, I want to work with chiropractors. At first, when I was all competitive and angry. I'm like, chiropractors don't know what they're doing. I'm like, no, no, these two things work together really, really well. Right post-op surgery. So my stepmom had her knee replaced two weeks later, driving all the flexing back, because she was taking, well, I can't say because she was taken, but she was also taking flexibility. Feel had nothing to do with her recovery. So, but, you know, I got to be careful legally 

Rich Bennett 1:05:58
said. 

Daniel Esposito 1:05:58
what I 

Rich Bennett 1:05:58
Yeah. I understand. I understand. I mean, it's amazing, because I go to the chiropractor and it's amazing how much better I feel. 

Daniel Esposito 1:06:06
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 1:06:07
Although I did cut out the green smoothie, but that's that's another story. That's something we'll 

Daniel Esposito 1:06:13
talk about just the foods and diets on our next conversation. 

Rich Bennett 1:06:16
Yeah. 

Daniel Esposito 1:06:16
Focus in on that stuff. 

Rich Bennett 1:06:18
That works for me. 

Daniel Esposito 1:06:19
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 1:06:19
All right, pick a number between one and five. 

Daniel Esposito 1:06:21
Three always three. 

Rich Bennett 1:06:23
Three. Why always three? 

Daniel Esposito 1:06:25
That's a healing number. Three six nine keys to the universe. 

Rich Bennett 1:06:29
All right. Now pick a number between 41 and 60. 

Daniel Esposito 1:06:32
Oh, 33. Oh, 41 and 60. 

Rich Bennett 1:06:35
Yeah. 

Daniel Esposito 1:06:35
We'll go 47. That's my kid's hockey number. 

Rich Bennett 1:06:38
You know what? This is a good question. I have a hundred different questions here and I always let the, like I just did have you pick the numbers. And it goes with what we've been talking about because you're trying to build one. What does community mean to you and how do you foster it? 

Daniel Esposito 1:06:59
So that's a question for me. 

Rich Bennett 1:07:02
Yeah. 

Daniel Esposito 1:07:02
Oh, God. 

Rich Bennett 1:07:03
That's it. The numbers you just picked. That's what led to that question. 

Daniel Esposito 1:07:06
That's crazy. What is because I'm trying to build a community. It's a it's it's a differences with respect. 

Rich Bennett 1:07:18
Yeah. Now I like that 

Daniel Esposito 1:07:20
Yeah. I mean, it's I mean, you know, I think I think that works. I don't know. It's the first 

Rich Bennett 1:07:24
works. 

Daniel Esposito 1:07:24
thing I thought of. 

Rich Bennett 1:07:25
Yeah. That works. 

Daniel Esposito 1:07:26
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 1:07:26
Dan, I want to thank you so much, 

Daniel Esposito 1:07:28
thanks so 

Rich Bennett 1:07:28
man. 

Daniel Esposito 1:07:29
much, man. That a 

Rich Bennett 1:07:29
It's 

Daniel Esposito 1:07:29
great time talking with 

Rich Bennett 1:07:30
So 

Daniel Esposito 1:07:30
you. 

Rich Bennett 1:07:31
did I and I learned so much. And we'll 

Daniel Esposito 1:07:34
we need the method. 

Rich Bennett 1:07:35
I'm going to hit you up because yeah, we, you know, so those of you listening Dan was going to come down here. We were going to record in person. And it's like, man, I want you to spend an hour and a half drive and Dan here for this. But now you got me thinking I might have to bring some co-host on. 

Daniel Esposito 1:07:53
Yeah, Spring a doctor on or somebody with fiber my eyes are something 

Rich Bennett 1:07:57
love. 

Daniel Esposito 1:07:57
I would 

Rich Bennett 1:07:58
Oh, 

Daniel Esposito 1:07:58
didn't talk with them. 

Rich Bennett 1:08:00
yeah, 

Daniel Esposito 1:08:00
Yeah. And I know I'm not argumentative. All I'm so confident in what I know. Like if 

Rich Bennett 1:08:06
I'm going to make it. 

Daniel Esposito 1:08:07
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 1:08:08
Grootin' make it happen. Damn, thanks a lot, man. 

Daniel Esposito 1:08:10
Yeah, I appreciate it, man. 

Rich Bennett 1:08:12
One of the things that really stood out to me in this conversation is how easy it is to accept what we're told. Especially when it comes from someone in a position of authority, but Dan's story is a reminder that sometimes, the diagnosis isn't the end of the story. It's just the beginning of a new question. For 10 years, he lived in pain, not just physical pain, but the kind that affects your mindset, your relationships, even how you show up as a parent and as a person. And like so many people out there, he was told there was no real solution. It's just something he'd have to live with. And thank God he didn't accept that. He got curious. He questioned things. He kept searching. Even when it didn't make sense, even when it was frustrating, even when it felt like he was just throwing darts in the dark, and eventually, their small discoveries added up to something like changing, not just for him, but for the people he's now helping. So if you're listening right now, and you're dealing with chronic pain, or honestly, anything in your life where you feel stuck, I think the biggest takeaway from this conversation is this. Don't lose hope. Be willing to question, be willing to learn, and most importantly, be willing to believe that things can change. Even when everything around you says they can't. Dan, I want to thank you, brother. This was eye opening. It was inspiring. And I know it's going to help a lot of people out there. And for everyone listening, if this episode hit home for you, do me a favor. Share it with who needs to hear it because you never know whose life it might impact. Until next time. Let's keep the conversations going.